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SQUEE! [Apr. 9th, 2008|05:44 am]
Kelly J. Cooper
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SQUEE! Jackie Chan & Jet Li in a movie together! Speaking English! YIKES!

(I've gotten the impression they hate each other in real life, given that Jet Li made a whole movie based on mocking Jackie Chan.)


Hmm. It's already been trashed, review-wise.

Ah well. Gonna see it anyway.

It's called The Forbidden Kingdom...

More info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0865556/

Man, if only it had Michelle Yeoh. That would be perfection.

[User Picture]From: robotech_master
2008-04-09 08:31 am (UTC)
I think that "Deadly China Hero" (whatever it's called in Chinese) was based more on mocking the franchise of "Once Upon a Time in China," (a more serious take on the Wong Fei-Hong character out of Chinese history/folklore than Jackie Chan's "Drunken Master"—the only direct connection Chan has with OaTiC is that for whatever reason he sang the end title music to the first one) given that the people making the movies had decided to dump him out of the lead role after several successful OaTiC films. So he went to HK comedy director Wong ("God of Gamblers") Jing and they made their own Wong Fei-Hong movie. (They could do that since he's an actual historical/folklorical person, not a trademarked character—it would be like Kevin Costner making a new "Robin Hood" movie for someone else.)

There was a bit of a sendup of "drunken boxing" in it, which might have been a slight dig at Chan's version of the character, but Chan didn't invent the idea of drunken boxing either when you get right down to it. I can't think of any reason why they should "hate" each other. By and large the only reason they haven't starred with each other up to this point is probably that they were both big enough stars in their own right that they didn't need another big star stealing their spotlight.

But at least on this side of the Pacific, their stars have apparently fallen to the point where taking part in an "ensemble cast" film is considered a good career move for them.
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[User Picture]From: kjc
2008-04-09 09:54 am (UTC)
Actually, I was thinking of High Risk (IMDB link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114437/) in which Jet Li plays the real stuntman for an actor who claims to do all his own stunts but is often too scared or too drunk to actually DO the crazy stuff people think he does all the time. The character also has Daddy issues (a known thing with Jackie Chan from his autobiography).

BUT, according to the page's trivia note, it was the director who chose to make the Frankie Lone character a mockery of Jackie Chan, and Jet apologized to Jackie for his involvement after the movie came out as Jackie was understandably pissed.

So maybe they don't hate each other...

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[User Picture]From: foomf
2008-04-09 12:15 pm (UTC)
Yeah... Chan DOES do the majority of his own stunts, and he has the medical evidence to back it up; High Risk was character assassination by the director.

And with parents like his, selling him into slavery, yeah, I'd have issues over that.
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[User Picture]From: foomf
2008-04-09 12:13 pm (UTC)
Baloney. At this point their stars have RISEN to the point where they can do an ensemble cast movie and enjoy it without being pissy prima-donnas.

Or do you think the several dozen Oceans' N films are about the falling careers?
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[User Picture]From: robotech_master
2008-04-09 12:52 pm (UTC)
Well, let's look at the Internet Movie Database for their recent films.

Under Jackie Chan, apart from some Asian films that never made it over here, I see Rush Hour 3 (2007), Around the World in 80 Days (2004), The Medallion and Shanghai Knights (both 2003), and The Tuxedo (2002). None of which exactly set the world on fire. RH3 almost earned back its $140 million budget; Knights cost $50 mil, grossed $60 mil; and I'm pretty sure the others were all more or less flops—some of them monumentally so. You pretty much have to go back to 2000 (Shanghai Noon) or 1998 (Rush Hour) to find big American hits. (His Hong Kong films may have done better, but that's a different market with, as the theatrical dubs have shown, only limited crossover potential into the USA.)

Jet Li seems to be doing a little better. I seem to recall Danny the Dog/Unleashed getting some pretty decent critical acclaim but didn't earn its $45 million budget in the USA, and Fearless grossed $24.6 million in the US—a respectable sum for a Hong Kong import. War didn't earn back its $25 mil budget. Even The One, Li's arguably most well-known American film, didn't quite earn back what it cost to make in the USA.

Of course, when you take into account international box office figures, not to mention DVD sales, these films all end up in the black, but even so, none of them was a mega smash hit.

One of the things I learned in the film classes I took as part of my media major is that when well-known stars have flops, one of the tricks that the studios try to do is team them up with other such stars, so that hopefully the draw of two slightly-tarnished names will add up to more than the sum of their parts and perhaps revitalize their careers.

I can't speak to Ocean's X+10; I expect sometimes the studios will put together a big group of stars who are doing reasonably well to try to come up with a hit that's even better. Maybe that's one of those "exceptions that proves the rule" everybody talks about. But I don't see anything in either Chan's or Lee's recent American film careers to cast doubt on the idea that this is a career-rescue film for them.
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[User Picture]From: foomf
2008-04-09 01:51 pm (UTC)
They're both filthy rich. They do movies now more because they enjoy doing them. That casts doubt as far as I'm concerned.
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From: okelle
2008-04-09 09:54 am (UTC)

When is it out? (I'm too lazy/tired to follow the link). We should totally have a kung fu group outing.

BTW, just in case enough people haven't told you, "Echo" is teh @\/\/3$0me.
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[User Picture]From: kjc
2008-04-09 09:56 am (UTC)
Opens April 18th.

Glad you're grooving on Echo!!
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[User Picture]From: joev
2008-04-14 09:59 am (UTC)
Dude! I think I have to see this. Outing?
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[User Picture]From: kjc
2008-04-14 11:32 pm (UTC)
Yes! Outing!
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